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epicfailzor, Donator 2022-04-09 02:40 | #1
Sjukt många i kommentarerna som säger att ukrainska armén är nazister.
xinerleet, Donator 2022-04-09 06:11 | #2
Lite bättre än att de skjuter huvudet av henne som ryssarna gör :D
Shawaam, Donator 2022-04-09 08:50 | #3
#1 epicfailzor: Klart, de projicerar.
Kulturombud, Donator 2022-04-09 09:24 | #4
#1 epicfailzor: I Ryssland och i andra slaviska länder har ordet inte samma innebörd som det vi tänker på. Här är en förklaring som jag tycker stämmer in bra på bilden jag fått av otåligt många timmar VISE-dokumentärer:

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1. In Russia and Ukraine, Nazi symbols have little to do with its racial doctrine, as according to it Slavs are actually subhumans. It has nothing to do with the Third Reich, either, or even with Jews. These guys don’t necessarily hate Jews and often admire Israel. The ideology, to the extent that one exists, is admiring the strong and disdaining the weak. That is all.

2. These symbols come from a subculture of criminals, street gangs, at-risk teens, soccer fans, and fight clubs. They convey machismo, striking fear, ‘fuck the system’, and other such hogwash. Racism is usually included in this, mostly towards Roma and PoC, and of course hatred towards LGBT people and Leftists™.

3. For them Nazi symbols/far right ideology is an empowerment thing. They often abstain from drugs, alcohol, and smoking, work out, practise martial arts, and do all kinds of things ‘for the benefit of society’. Sometimes those really are good things, but it’s usually more like vigilantism, ‘punishing thieves’ (mostly of the wrong colour), etc.

4. Under this façade, and based on the legitimacy they derive from being those who ‘maintain order’ where the state authorities fail, they are also recruited by politicians and oligarchs as thugs for hire who beat up political and business rivals. Of course there are loads of such gangs, each amounting to ten men on a good day, and they all hate each other.

5. In the ‘separatist’ ‘republics’, the Russians have organized a ‘governing body’ composed of local gangsters and other shady types, and naturally these guys were among them as well. That is why you can find ‘Nazis’ among them, among the Russian ‘Wagner’ mercs and other nasty types. Ukraine has a similar sort as well.

6. The infamous ‘Azov’ battalion were originally guys of that ilk. Mostly from Mariupol, where they are fighting (heroically, it should be said) right now. So they are not to be confused with Ukrainian nationalists from the West, celebrating nationalist leaders despite (and not because) of their phase of collaborating with the Nazis in the beginning of WWII.

7. By the way, today it is just another military battalion, except with a shady history that is distinct from the political movement that tries to blur this distinction in order to build itself up from the battalion’s military bravado (with the generous help of the Russians who exaggerate this story as much as possible) but with next to no electoral achievements. Of course there are all sorts of other such ‘Nazis’.

8. None of this really has to do anything with the Kremlin’s ‘fighting the Nazis’ narrative. There, the story is simple: seeing as Russia is the one that ‘beat the Nazis’, anyone who has a problem with Russia and its regime is a Nazi. If they use Nazi symbolism, all the better. If not, they’re still a Nazi, it’s all good. Using Nazi symbolism and is pro-Putin? Not a Nazi."
Tuggben, Surgubbe 2022-04-09 10:08 | #5
Fan ska de stå och mobba en gammal kvinna som inte vet vad internet är, hon har ju för fan inte en aning vad som hänt sedan 60-talet.
holydiverr, Donator 2022-04-09 12:11 | #6
#5 Tuggben: Ändå lyckats bli en hjärntvättad kommunist. GGwp
gsusquintana, Donator 2022-04-09 14:28 | #7
#6 holydiverr: Undra vad hon vart med om senast röda armen härjade förbi där, att be ett sånt gammalt helvete tänka om är meningslöst sno flaggan av na bara.
Tuggben, Surgubbe 2022-04-09 15:28 | #8
#6 holydiverr: #7 gsusquintana: Fast om du blir indoktrinerad en sak och sedan är helt avskuren från ny information, hur fan ska du kunna veta något annat?
Se bara masajen som var med i älskar, älskar inte, det gick inte så bra :P
epicfailzor, Donator 2022-04-09 17:34 | #9
#4 Kulturombud: Tack för infon, nummer 8 är väl den enda jag känner till sedan tidigare.
Jaeger402, Donator 2022-04-09 20:25 | #10
#8 Tuggben: Kan också vara någon mental "sjukdom" inblandat men inget jag ska påstå är fakta. Påminner mig faktiskt lite granna om den tyska gamla damen som ska skåla med familjen för de som känner igen vilken video jag pratar om.
Fishk, Donator 2022-04-09 22:00 | #11
Vidrigt.
Magnum77, Donator 2022-04-09 22:20 | #12
#5 Tuggben: Agree

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